Re: RILEY Bootle « Result #1 on Nov 18, 2009, 8:42am »
David you are funny! Yes, Annie was quite a beauty and my grandparents were very fond of her apparently and I would love to be able to trace her and descendants. It did occur to me that she may have married the Thomas O'Toole who was the other witness at my grandparents wedding, maybe he was her boyfriend (?) Yes, that is what findmypast told me in an email. You'd think that they would add an annotation saying "possibly GARVEY" that would help anyone else searching for him otherwise how on earth would they find him if, unlike me, they did not have his marriage cert in front of them! hmphh
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Re: RILEY Bootle « Result #3 on Nov 17, 2009, 3:26am »
I was wondering when someone would comment on the photo of Annie Riley, who was an absolute stunner! Surely she must have married at some time? And with hair like that she should have been doing adverts for L'Oréal (because she's worth it). David
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Re: RILEY Bootle « Result #4 on Nov 17, 2009, 3:18am »
Hi Caryl I seem to remember that findmypast will only make changes based on the evidence in the census itself, ie they do not accept other documentation such as BMD certificates. This is what they say on the transcription error report page: 'Please enter any corrections and comments against the data you think may be incorrect. You should check transcription queries against the original census image before reporting errors. The originals contain many strange spellings and errors made by the enumerators. We will only amend transcriptions where they fail to reflect what was written in the census.' Cheers David
Re: RILEY Bootle « Result #6 on Nov 16, 2009, 2:12pm »
As an update to this, after I contacted findmypast they have changed the transcriptions for all five of the RILEY sons from GORVING to RILEY but are not going to change my grandfathers transcription from GORVING to GARVEY. I'm not sure if is worth contacting them again and showing proof i.e. my grandads marriage cert that shows he was resident at that address in 1911
Re: Balmforth « Result #7 on Nov 11, 2009, 3:40pm »
Hello reynolm01 , I sent Libbie a PM back in August but she hasn't replied . I have researched a branch of the Balmforth family from Wavertree a while back and thought I might help her, what years are we talking about for Fred & Josie ? as there is no mention of them in the info I have.
Re: RILEY Bootle « Result #9 on Nov 10, 2009, 11:06am »
I'm over the moon because I have finally tracked down the Riley's from Bootle who are related to my grandfather Thomas Garvey (see original post beginning of this thread) Could not find them or him in 1911 census and that is because he was transcribed as Thomas GORVING living with his aunt and uncle Frank and Kate RILEY and his Riley cousins were also transcribed as GORVING even though it is as plain as day on the census sheet RILEY!!
Only found them because I looked through all my old certificates and SERENDIPITY and a stroke of luck found grandad Thomas marrying my grandmother in 1911 and giving his address as 24 Moore Street Bootle, so I did an address search in the 1911 census and they they all were!!!!
Frank Riley head 48 Dock labourer Steamship Co. b. St Helens
Kate Riley ( nee Farrell) wife 41 married 26 yrs 5 children born 5 survived b. Dublin
Thomas Garvey nephew 23 single Railway engine cleaner b. Dublin (My Grandad))
William Riley son 17 single Bakers errand boy b. Dublin
Frank Riley son 7 b. Birkdale Lancs
Peter Riley son 5 b. Bootle
Herbert Riley son 4 b. Bootle (this must be the 'Bert' above rescued by my grandad WW2 see first post)
Leslie Riley son 3 b. Bootle
One thing puzzling me where is my grandads cousin Annie Riley who was a witness at my grandparents 1911 wedding along with a Thomas O'Toole. Annie Riley was also godmother to my uncle in 1912. Was Annie one of the cousins not from Kate and Frank's marriage but one of Franks children? Frank was apparently a widower with kids when he and Kate married 5 kids born and survived of Frank and Kate's marriage, all listed on census, no Annie (?)
This is Annie Riley
(posting this update here in Lost Pals hoping that surviving relations of the above might see it and contact me, not trying to bore everyone to death with my rellies )
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Bulmer Family « Result #10 on Nov 9, 2009, 12:08pm »
Some years ago there was a family break up - about what no-one seems to know. However, Sidney Bulmer together with wife Florence Eileen and their sons, Leslie and Kenneth, have not been heard of since. Both Sidney and Florence Eileen have long since died, but we would love to hear from Leslie or Kenneth or any descendants as a family reunion is being planned for next year.
Sidney was second son of Sydney Myers Bulmer and Lilian Darcy. Previous addresses were Columbia Road, Walton, and Abbeystead Road, Childwall.
"..I saw behind me those who had gone, and before me, those who are to come. I looked back and saw my father, and his father, and all our fathers, and in front to see my son, and his son, and the sons upon sons beyond. And their eyes were my eyes. As I felt so they felt, and we are to feel, as then, so now, as tomorrow and forever. Then I was not afraid" "Richard Llewellyn"
Re: Philomena Carney « Result #13 on Nov 2, 2009, 9:36am »
Thanks for looking Jane. I would get excited if Carney weren't such a common name in Dublin and Liverpool, also I think that one is a little old and I also think the leaving of her husband and the flit across the Atlantic happened later. My grandmother, Philomena's sister, married in 1911 and I remember family talk of "Cissie" lying on my grandmothers couch crying and having the vapours about her unhappy marriage before she ran off with another man. I'm inclined to think this happened after my grandmothers marriage as prior to that she lived as a lodger and may not have had a couch in her room for her sister to lie on!!
"..I saw behind me those who had gone, and before me, those who are to come. I looked back and saw my father, and his father, and all our fathers, and in front to see my son, and his son, and the sons upon sons beyond. And their eyes were my eyes. As I felt so they felt, and we are to feel, as then, so now, as tomorrow and forever. Then I was not afraid" "Richard Llewellyn"
Re: Philomena Carney « Result #15 on Oct 31, 2009, 8:22am »
Thanks for all thought, leads and tips here. You've given me food for thought at the very least Didn't really expect any help with this, it is a difficult one but as I said I post it about now and then in the hopes that one day...
Re: Philomena Carney « Result #16 on Oct 30, 2009, 4:59pm »
It could be her wedding photograph--someone cut out the husband after she left him. The clothes and hair should give an idea of the approximate year. She might have gone to Canada or who knows even Australia but let the family think it was America if she wanted to disappear. Love the outfit! Alexander
Re: Philomena Carney « Result #19 on Oct 28, 2009, 10:12am »
Thanks for looking David & Val
David that could be a good lead but I'm wondering what sort of documentation would be needed for entry into the USA at that time period? She may have had her birth cert and would obviously not mention that she was married. Apparently "Cissie/Cissey" was a nickname so would not be on cert if that was needed, or did people travel under whatever name they chose as long as they had some ID? Problem is I'm not sure if she was older or younger than my grandmother who was born in 1886. No idea when the photo was taken but only half of it remains, the chap, whoever he was, has been lopped off and you can just see his arm
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Re: Philomena Carney « Result #20 on Oct 28, 2009, 5:03am »
Hi Caryl I'm not sure whether the dates and other details fit the bill, but in the passenger lists in findmy past there's this: Cissey Carney aged 21 (born 1889), single, servant, sailed from Liverpool on 22 June 1910 on the SS Friesland bound for Philadelphia. There's nobody else named Carney on board. Maybe this will give you a lead, maybe not! That is a great hat - any idea when the photo was taken? Cheers David
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Re: Philomena Carney « Result #21 on Oct 27, 2009, 5:53pm »
Hi Caryl,
I looked, on the Irish Family History Foundation website, for a Philomena Carney born around 1880s. I'm afraid I couldn't find her, either in Dublin or any other counties on that website.
Re: Philomena Carney « Result #22 on Oct 27, 2009, 4:00pm »
Jim
Anything is possible, finding proof is something else. Thanks for looking. I'm hoping that she took with her enough proof of her real identity and roots so that any descendants eventually come looking for us.
She would have needed some kind of documentation wouldn't she? She may have travelled under her maiden name and just used her birth cert, neglected to say she was married and may well have married bigamously stateside. She was Catholic so can't see her getting a divorce prior to vanishing - probaly why she did a flit I understand the Ellis island database is not complwte, has manifests missing (?) She would not have had her mother Jane's wedding cert as her sister had that (I have it now)
Philomena Carney « Result #25 on Oct 27, 2009, 8:01am »
Another family mystery Difficult one this
Putting this in the 'Lost Pals or family members' section in the hope that this lady's descendants (if she had any) may one day come across it, I have posted these details elsewhere periodically
This is my grandmothers sister Philomena (also known as "Cissie") Carney who in the early 1900's was unhappily married to one man and ran off to the USA with another one! ? when ? where Ellis Island database reveals nothing
Married name unknown, new chap's name also unknown. Born in Dublin circa 1880's to soldier Henry Carney and Jane (McMahon)
Lived in Liverpool at some point, sister Christina lived in Bootle, brothers in the army
Nina McIntyre where are you? « Result #26 on Oct 23, 2009, 6:33am »
I would like to get back in touch with Nina McIntyre (maiden name) who lived in Ribblesdale Ave Aintree with her Nan in 1970's - 1980's and worked at Girobank. I hope someone remembers her and can tell me where she is now so we can renew old memories.
Re: MUMS LOST FRIEND, JEAN RUSSELL/NEE, RIDING « Result #29 on Sept 13, 2009, 1:56pm »
thanks david for your advice i will have a look thank you very much for your attention my mum who is 80 now always talks about her old friends and tells lovely storys about her teenage years and such. kind regards, rob.
MUMS LOST FRIEND, JEAN RUSSELL/NEE, RIDING « Result #32 on Sept 10, 2009, 11:17am »
Does anyone know a Jean Russell (maiden name Riding ) it's my mums(Mary Owen, nee Bingham.) old friend ,Jean would have had her 81st b/day in april 2009, her fathers name was Tom and her mothers name Rose, jean had a sister called May, and children -daughter Paula, + eileen +and a son John. would realy appreciate any help as my mum is 81 now and often talks about jean with so much affection , thank you all in advance for any help you may have, rob (marys son ).
Hello I am researching the Balmforth family of West Derby / Wavertree 1800- 2000. If anyone has any information I would be extremely grateful! Thank you!
Ellen/Nellie Canavan « Result #36 on Aug 24, 2009, 9:24am »
Hi, I am searching for death record ( this year 2009) for Ellen/Nellie Canavan. She was born June Q 1931 Liverpool. This would make her age 78 years at time of her death. I believe her daughter ?? Linda Canavan may live in Walton area of Liverpool. She may have been an only child but not sure. At one time Nellie lived in Boaler Street / Kensington area. I have tried searching classified section Liverpool Echo with no luck. Any suggestions appreciated. Dont know if recent death records ( 2009 ) would be recorded at Central Library.
ANN GILKES, 170 LORD STREET, REDCAR, TS10 3BQ - Electoral Roll 2000 & Electoral Roll 2009 - age abt 60. This was the only hit in the UK. If you subscribe to the site and buy a few credits, you should be able to get a phone number. Dickiesam
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Re: Birchall « Result #39 on Aug 4, 2009, 7:21am »
Hi, It might be worthwhile trying a search of recent Electoral Rolls (2000 to 2008) here: http://www.tracesmart.co.uk/ and here: http://www.192.com/ Both are pay sites but you might get lucky.
It's possible/likely that Christine Birchall married sometime after 1976 (when she would have been 18). There were 16 between 1984 and 2005, some with a middle initial and 8 were in the general South Lancs/North Cheshire area. Did Christine have a middle name?
There were 7 Keith B marriages in the same time frame, all but 1 in the approximate right area. 5 had a middle initial. Good luck, Dickiesam
Merseyside WW2 mail censors & examiners « Result #40 on Jul 27, 2009, 10:13am »
I am looking for information about anyone from the area who worked for the postal and telegraph censorship department during World WW2, particularly anyone who was reposted to Bermuda.
Re: Family break up part two « Result #41 on Jul 18, 2009, 5:46am »
Jane i have Thomas born 1829 on my tree .The 1841 cencus lists thomas as 12 years old, but Mary the mother was illiterate and just may have got his age wrong, unlikely but possible. Your 1881 lists Thomas as 54 , which gives a birth date of 1827, so might all be a red herring, strange though.Any thoughts on all those double barrell names?
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Re: Family break up part two « Result #42 on Jul 17, 2009, 2:09pm »
This is them in 1881, Elizabeth was born in Knotty Ash 252 West Derby Rd Thomas FLETCHER Head M Male 54 West Derby, Lancashire, England Coach Builder Employs 12 Men 9 Boys Elizabeth FLETCHER Wife M Female 55 Knotty Ash, Lancashire, England William L. FLETCHER Son U Male 22 West Derby, Lancashire, England Coach Bdy & Maker Mary W. FLETCHER Daur U Female 21 West Derby, Lancashire, England Coach Builders Daur Thomas H. FLETCHER Son U Male 19 West Derby, Lancashire, England Wheelwright Samuel T. FLETCHER Son U Male 17 West Derby, Lancashire, England Public House Manager Jesse E. FLETCHER Daur Female 14 West Derby, Lancashire, England Scholar Colin FLETCHER Son Male 12 West Derby, Lancashire, England Scholar Eliza DAVIES Servt U Female 18 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Genl Servt
"..I saw behind me those who had gone, and before me, those who are to come. I looked back and saw my father, and his father, and all our fathers, and in front to see my son, and his son, and the sons upon sons beyond. And their eyes were my eyes. As I felt so they felt, and we are to feel, as then, so now, as tomorrow and forever. Then I was not afraid" "Richard Llewellyn"
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Re: Family break up part two « Result #43 on Jul 17, 2009, 1:51pm »
Gareth Thomas was Thomas Jnr in the children's obituary, wonder if his father was Jacob's brother, and the Walmsley related to Mary. Or would it be another generation back, how old was Jacob's Thomas in 1841 census ? Jane
"..I saw behind me those who had gone, and before me, those who are to come. I looked back and saw my father, and his father, and all our fathers, and in front to see my son, and his son, and the sons upon sons beyond. And their eyes were my eyes. As I felt so they felt, and we are to feel, as then, so now, as tomorrow and forever. Then I was not afraid" "Richard Llewellyn"
Re: Family break up part two « Result #44 on Jul 17, 2009, 10:52am »
Hi Jane. Thanks for your post.If you remember you sent me some details of a marriage between Thomas FLETCHER and Elizabeth WALMSLEY and at the same time sent me details of a thread taken from Roots web,i think the originator was called Kathy Hodson,it was a bit old , 2005,but i gave it a go and sent my queery re the Link between the FLETCHERS and the WALMLEY'S. She did eventualy reply and sent me a load of information, including a contact number of a William SHAW who lives in Shropshire, Kathy said she felt sure he could help me with my research.you will note Jane that one of the children was called William SHAW FLETCHER. Wasn't so lucky with the phone number that time,Discontiued. Why would Thomas F have all of those children with double barrel names?and how sad to loose two children within days of each other, maybe thay died of the same sickness? If i get a marriage cert of Thomas and Elizabeth's wedding would it give the mother and fathers name?And if it would, what would be recorded if the father had died? Forgive me Jane if you have already told me to do that .Just out of interest, Kathy lives in Canada. Caryl thanks for the kind words
Re: Family break up part two « Result #45 on Jul 17, 2009, 7:06am »
Yes, this is great work! Well done David & Jane and to you Gareth It's good to have someone on the forum who is so enthusiastic and excited about new finds and doesn't forget to thank those who help and give credit where it is due
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Re: Family break up part two « Result #46 on Jul 17, 2009, 5:26am »
Something elses to chew over Gareth found this obit and then searched for births, wonder if they are related to Jacob Fletcher hmmmmmmm, Tuebrook, next door to Old Swan, and he's a publican too Jane
Liverpool Mercury, Saturday, August 7, 1858 Deaths Aug 2nd, aged 16mths, Mary Walmsley and Aug 6th, aged 3yrs Thomas Henry, son and daughter of Thomas FLETCHER, Jnr, Derby Arms, Tuebrook xxxxx
MARY WALMSLEY FLETCHER Birth: 02 NOV 1859 Christening: 27 NOV 1859 Saint Mary The Virgin, West Derby, Lancashire, England
Father Thomas FLETCHER, mother Elizabeth WALMSLEY Other children 1. THOMAS HENRY FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 05 AUG 1855 Saint Mary The Virgin, West Derby, Lancashire, England
2. THOMAS HENRY FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 12 MAY 1861 Saint Mary The Virgin, West Derby, Lancashire, England
3. MARY WALMSLEY FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 27 NOV 1859 Saint Mary The Virgin, West Derby, Lancashire, England
4. CAROLINE LOWNLEY FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 05 MAR 1854 Saint Mary The Virgin, West Derby, Lancashire, England
5. COLIN TOWNLEY FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 23 SEP 1870 Saint Mary The Virgin, West Derby, Lancashire, England
6. WILLIAM JAMES WALMSLEY FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 16 JAN 1853 Saint Mary The Virgin, West Derby, Lancashire, England
7. WILLIAM SHAW FLETCHER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 02 AUG 1858 Saint Mary The Virgin, West Derby, Lancashire, England
"..I saw behind me those who had gone, and before me, those who are to come. I looked back and saw my father, and his father, and all our fathers, and in front to see my son, and his son, and the sons upon sons beyond. And their eyes were my eyes. As I felt so they felt, and we are to feel, as then, so now, as tomorrow and forever. Then I was not afraid" "Richard Llewellyn"
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Re: Family break up part two « Result #47 on Jul 17, 2009, 1:40am »
Hi Gareth That is fantastic. Can you believe it - it actually brought tears to my eyes to hear of your success! Thanks for the complimentary remarks in your post and the previous one. This has been another very rewarding episode for me (and especially for you). Enjoy! Cheers David
Re: Family break up part two « Result #48 on Jul 16, 2009, 12:25pm »
Hi everybody. With Janes help i think i can end this tread with a brilliant result. It started with Caryl giving me contact details of the Liverpool Echo old pals section, Thanks for that, i was intending to use that information within the next few days, but Jane came up with something so simple i just had to try it first. Jane simply gave me some phone numbers to try. J Bewley was my first attempt,after building my self up, called, the number.The number belonged to a Jane BEWLEY, spoke to her husband , Nice man, he told me that he had not heard of any of the BEWLEYS i was looking for, but wished me luck, good people Scousers. Do you know i was almost relieved that i didn't find my cousin James BEWLEY, how wierd is that, anyway it spooked me enough to put off the next call to the following day, what a wimp! Trouble is next days always happen, so called the number for R BEWLEY, and a man answered , i said that i was trying to trace a Robert Bewley and could he help me,all he said was i might. Anyway i introduced myself and he said, "you are my cousin"WOW! Robert said that he new of me but did not know where i was,this i found strange as i did not know Robert existed until Moien from the forum found him.We talked for a good hour about him and his twin brother James,who is still around, We exchanged emails and he is going to send me some photos of my father who he new well. The conversation came around to his mum, Stella who was my aunty , a distant relatives family tree shows she died c 1990, No she didn't , she still is my aunty, she's 91.Robert gave me her number, i asked if he would call her first as i didn't want to give her a shock. I spoke to her later that day,she may be 91, but everthing is working up top.She bombarded me with loads of info, i couldn't take it all in, i'll get there, found out my dad had brother i didn't know about.A short time ago i was struggling to find any living relatives In Liverpool, now there loads of e'm. It just goes to show what one phone call can start.My aunty asked if i iwould call again, as if i would't.Must go as you can see iv'e got lots of work to do. Take care. Gareth.
PS special thanks to Jane and David for unlocking this one.
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Re: Family break up part two « Result #49 on Jul 14, 2009, 9:07am »
Some contact details for J and R, Bewley in private mails, they were around in an old 1990 directory, R, at the same address, [be brave little soldier you never know] Jane
"..I saw behind me those who had gone, and before me, those who are to come. I looked back and saw my father, and his father, and all our fathers, and in front to see my son, and his son, and the sons upon sons beyond. And their eyes were my eyes. As I felt so they felt, and we are to feel, as then, so now, as tomorrow and forever. Then I was not afraid" "Richard Llewellyn"
Family break up part two « Result #51 on Jul 14, 2009, 5:20am »
Hi all. Just an update on the family break up thread, May 2009, on the lost pals section.It is a shining example of what the forum members can find out on your behalf. Jane found out that my Stella FLETCHER marries a James BEWLEY 1939, Liverpool. Moen then discovers the birth of James BEWLEY, Dec 1942 also in Liverpool, he would have been the son of my aunt Stella.All of this information relayed to me in just a day or so. Moen also found that my uncle Robert FLETCHER had died in 2002. ( to view all this work please refer to the original thread). So one out, one in, or was it one in ?. I was talking to my long lost sister the other day( fifty two years)on the phone and we got around to talking about our aunt Stella, i know have a photo of her, and out of the blue she said,"Stella had twins you know"i was a bit taken back and didn't probe any further. I got back to David,(Moien), who had found the birth of James BEWLEY, and told him of the chat i had with my sister, and that there may have been twins in the family. David took another look at the records and drew a blank???He asked me if i could provide any further information, such as dates etc.I told David i would have to talk to my sister again to clarify, but before i could do that David got back to me and told me that he had had another look at his records,David it appears does not give up easily, and he found a birth of a Robert BEWLEY, born same Quarter as James BEWLEY, with the same reference, so it wasn't one it was two. They would be in their late sixties now, so i have or had twin cousins,so well done Jane and Dave. As i am still Looking for any living Liverpool relatives,all this gives me something to work with. I think i have asked this question before, is their a Liverpool newspaper that carries a looking for relatives section? I would Appreciate any help this. Sorry to have gone on a bit,but i have found this forum has been informative, giving of their time, humorous,and last but not least fun, so well done everyone
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Birchall « Result #55 on Jun 20, 2009, 8:28am »
Hopefully it is worth a try. I am trying to locate Keith or Christine Birchall who used to live in Great Budworth Cheshire where we went to school at Mid cheshire secondary Modern and then I relocated to Australia and apparently they relocated to Warrington and then I am not too sure wher they went. they were born in 1950 and 1948 I think Any help would be appreciated Ray
Re: Family break up « Result #58 on May 28, 2009, 10:44am »
Hi Eddy. I have found a realy foolproof way to do " cut and paste " it takes no effort, you dont feel silly and you can never get it wrong. I'LL GET MY SON TO DO IT. hee hee !
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Re: Family break up « Result #59 on May 28, 2009, 9:35am »
My thanks to JANE and FINBAR for advice on how to 'cut and paste' Have made notes and will attempt to do this, in the privacy of my home and not on the forum; just in case it all goes pear shaped. Don't want to look more of an idiot than I have to !!
I keep loosing my internet connection.Just finished a 50000 word reply to you both , i clicked post reply and lost everything...
You should be editing anything more than five words in a word processor package (such as Word). Then when things go pear shape you have a copy. If you set it to autosave every 5 minutes you will keep more hair. They also have a far better Grammar/Spellchecker, than these forum packages.
Then right click on the highlighted text and select 'Copy' on the scroll that appears. This will save the text.
Thats new to me finbar, will do this in future Jane
That's the thing with computers Jane. Half a dozen different ways of doing everything!
If you want to copy an entire document, you can also click on 'Edit' in top L.H. corner of screen and then on 'Select All', or alternatively Ctrl + A. This will highlight the entire document and save scrolling all the way down it.
Re: Family break up « Result #62 on May 28, 2009, 5:24am »
A quick ps . if you don't enter a subject when starting a new thread and attempt to post, the wheel falls off again. A little prompt would be usefull for idiots like me.
Re: Family break up « Result #63 on May 28, 2009, 5:15am »
Hi everyone. yes i know cut and paste, i never learn. Jane thanks for the info on Stoneycroft/Old swan.When i looked at the area i had a bit of a shiver.I have only been to Liverpool twice, once a few years ago, did the docks, that sort of thing, once when i was very small I stayed in a house that i remember was quite smart, in my eyes, but whenever i looked at images of Fletcher homes, care of google maps, and info from birth certs, i was always dissapointed, thought my memory had gone astray.Jane with your reply re my aunty Stella things started to fall into place, My lack of local knowledge trips me up, i looked at my Granfathers Death cert and found that he lived at 22 Rawlinson Road, i think thats in Old Swan, So my Nan was right after all. So my grandad Alfred must have done alright as a coal merchant, good for him!
David thanks so much for the reaserch on my uncle ,Robert Fletcher,Not bad news realy, he was a good age, he would be 98 now, so well done for that.Yes is defo its the right one.as you say ,must get a death cert to get the name of the informant.Does a local newspaper carry looking for relative sections?Its getting scary now! Oh that picture of the church was a nice touch, brill. Thanks to all. Take care Gareth.
"..I saw behind me those who had gone, and before me, those who are to come. I looked back and saw my father, and his father, and all our fathers, and in front to see my son, and his son, and the sons upon sons beyond. And their eyes were my eyes. As I felt so they felt, and we are to feel, as then, so now, as tomorrow and forever. Then I was not afraid" "Richard Llewellyn"
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Re: Family break up « Result #65 on May 27, 2009, 6:36pm »
Hi Eddie.
As well as the method described by Jane you can hold the left click button down and pass the cursor over the text you wish to copy, which will then be highlighted. Then right click on the highlighted text and select 'Copy' on the scroll that appears. This will save the text. Then go to the forum page or wherever you wish to place the text, and right click on the page, and select 'Paste'. This will post the text on the page.
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Re: Family break up « Result #66 on May 27, 2009, 5:32pm »
Holding down left key on mouse, scroll along what you wish to copy [this will then highlight] release left key on mouse. Press control key and C at the same time. Go to where you wish to copy e.g word document, or further down page. press control key and V at the same time "Eureka" I'm doing it now with , "Eureka" "Eureka" "Eureka" "Eureka" ha ha Jane
"..I saw behind me those who had gone, and before me, those who are to come. I looked back and saw my father, and his father, and all our fathers, and in front to see my son, and his son, and the sons upon sons beyond. And their eyes were my eyes. As I felt so they felt, and we are to feel, as then, so now, as tomorrow and forever. Then I was not afraid" "Richard Llewellyn"
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Re: Family break up « Result #67 on May 27, 2009, 5:02pm »
Hi, Finbar.
This has happened to me in the past. I can do word docs., but please DON'T LAUGH -- I don't know how to 'cut and paste'. As I've said once before on the forum, cut and paste is what I do with wallpaper. Can you explain in words of one syllable with NO 'technical jargon' how I can do it --PLEASE !
I keep loosing my internet connection.Just finished a 50000 word reply to you both , i clicked post reply and lost everything
Hi Gareth.
Had the same problem myself in the past. I've found it's better to type a lengthy reply as a Word/Works doc., and then cut and paste it onto the thread, then you've still got your original if the wheel does come off.
Re: Family break up « Result #69 on May 27, 2009, 1:08pm »
Hi Jane and Dave. Will respond in depth tomorow.I keep loosing my internet connection.Just finished a 50000 word reply to you both , i clicked post reply and lost everything, as Jane would say GRrrrrrrrr. Watch this space i'll try to keep it interesting, Dave before i loose things again Robert F, i misread DOB it was 13/12/1911.
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Re: Family break up « Result #70 on May 27, 2009, 10:27am »
Hi Gareth Looks like bad news on Robert Fletcher. There is a death recorded in May 2002 on Merseyside for someone of that name born 13/12/1911 (slightly different from the DOB you have, but still). Here are the details: Robert Fletcher died Sefton North, Merseyside in May 2002. District No. 0341A Reg. No. 68A Ent. No. 087 DOR 502 If you order the death certificate it will tell you who registered the death, which should be a valuable lead to surviving members of the family in the Liverpool area. Regards David PS Here are some details on All Saints, Stoneycroft (I was married there!): http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/churche....%20of%20England
"..I saw behind me those who had gone, and before me, those who are to come. I looked back and saw my father, and his father, and all our fathers, and in front to see my son, and his son, and the sons upon sons beyond. And their eyes were my eyes. As I felt so they felt, and we are to feel, as then, so now, as tomorrow and forever. Then I was not afraid" "Richard Llewellyn"
Re: Family break up « Result #72 on May 27, 2009, 5:52am »
HI jane and David, Got my thick head on today, so could i just clarify the info you have kindly sent to me. Jane, your research shows Stella Fletcher weds James BEWLEY 1939, where does Stoneycroft fit in,? sorry to be a pain. David , looks like baby James was given his Fathers name. Any news on Robert F 1911, Mothers maiden name was johnstone? What's Old Swan like? Thanks both. Take care , Gareth
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Re: Family break up « Result #73 on May 27, 2009, 1:37am »
Hi Gareth Possible lead for you: James Bewley birth Liverpool N. 8b 781 in Dec 1942, mother's name Fletcher, so presumably the son of Stella. Best of luck David
"..I saw behind me those who had gone, and before me, those who are to come. I looked back and saw my father, and his father, and all our fathers, and in front to see my son, and his son, and the sons upon sons beyond. And their eyes were my eyes. As I felt so they felt, and we are to feel, as then, so now, as tomorrow and forever. Then I was not afraid" "Richard Llewellyn"
Family break up « Result #75 on May 26, 2009, 11:47am »
Hi all. I wonder if any of the forum can help me locate any of my Liverpool relatives. My father Alfred Fletcher, born 21/7/1925, 144a brownlow hill, Liverpool, divorced my mother in the mid 1950s. I was taken away from the Fletcher side of my family to live with my Mother in Coventry, Mum would never talk about Alfred, taboo.There must be some of my Fletcher family still in Liverpool, common name i know, but worth a try.
Details i know, Alfred had a brother Robert , born 11/12/1911 at 3 Grosvenor Road, Wavertree.He also had a sister, Stella, born 27/3/1918 at 1a Ash Grove, Wavertree. Stella must still have been around in 1989 as she informed my mother of Alfred's death around that time, info from my Nan, not Mum.My Mother never even told me was ill, not too impressed with that. So i just may have some relatives still living in Liverpool, maybe next door to you! One other thing my Nan said is that they lived In Old Swan?
Long shot i know so i would be grateful for any feedback.
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Re: WILSON, Thelma « Result #76 on May 18, 2009, 5:19pm »
Hi Lorraine,
The Birth info comes from Ancestry. The site includes Free bmd records - but they only go up to 1915. Fortunately Ancestry have themselves transcribed the Births from 1916 onward, so they are fully searchable.
Unfortunately, Marriages and Deaths aren't as accessible after 1915 - but I did look through 1972 - 1976 Marriages. None for a Thelma Kay at all - and none for a Norman Kay in Liverpool.
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Re: WILSON, Thelma « Result #77 on May 18, 2009, 4:22pm »
Thank you Val, that puts the children in a contactable range. I will try to follow this up. These births are feasible because of the dates. From what site did you obtain this? I had looked in bothFree BMD and Lancashire BDM's. I may have put in the wrong info.
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Re: WILSON, Thelma « Result #79 on May 17, 2009, 4:41pm »
Hi Shadie 151, I had forgotten about this message. I have only recently got to this line after a long spell. I have been unable to trace any siblings of Thelma Wilson, my mother's cousin (except Phyllis who died in 1942. I have now found that she married Norman Kay at St.Mary's Kirkdale in 1947, but have not traced children. Thanks for your interest, Lorraine Daly.
Re: lost family « Result #82 on May 3, 2009, 5:26pm »
hi smiler1 again john cleator was also known as jack and his wife was known as maime cleator would love some help finding their daughter's thanks again sylvia smiler1
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Re: Wigan churches « Result #84 on Apr 28, 2009, 7:03pm »
Hi Val.
Bridge St was off Chapel Lane, on the edge of Wigan town centre. The nearest Catholic Church to there was St Joseph's, Caroline St, about 200 yds away, BUT it may not have been built in 1848/50. The two Catholic churches that carried out the majority of Catholic baptisms in Wigan during this period were St John's and St Mary's; both in Standishgate (next door to each other), about 500 yds from Bridge St.
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Wigan churches « Result #85 on Apr 28, 2009, 6:22pm »
Hi All I am trying to trace the birth of my paternal Greatgrandfather Joseph Hart. I have been told that he was born in Wigan in 1850ish, but have been unable to trace his birth. He was the son of Morris & Ann Hart (nee Maher). In 1848 a Michael Morris was born to Morris & Ann (although her maiden name was spelt Maigher I assume they are the right ones) their address was given as something unreadable, then Bridge Street Wigan as they were Irish Catholics I am sure that the children would have been christened so does any one have any idea which would have been the nearest Catholic church to Bridge Street. Just to make it more complicated another child called Maurice was born to Maurice & Ann (this time the maiden name was Maher but Maurice is the wrong spelling) in June 1850 but this time in Lightbody Street Liverpool!!!!!. Regards Val
NEW MEMBERS PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING « Result #86 on Apr 21, 2009, 10:35am »
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Re: Sacs family history « Result #88 on Apr 13, 2009, 12:24pm »
Hi Noseysmum
Thanks for that info, what a clever trick. They had in fact 21 children but ONLY 14 survived! The last child was born in 1914. Sarah born in 1909 must have been one of those that died young as I didn't know of her. What do you mean by directories, are they local authority?
Re: Sacs family history « Result #91 on Apr 9, 2009, 2:33am »
Hi Mike In Anc there are a lot of Wallenstein's in London but nothing for other spelling. If you go to 1911 & bring up Elias, click search again, take out Elias leave Jacks, put in Lancashire & Liverpool, then where it says other names in household put in Elias first name, click search. 13 results, did they have 11 kiddies?? btw Harry is 21 & I think "Javie" should be Janie(Jane) This freebie only works well with unusual first & surnames. I'll look in directories for "W" they only give head of household.
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Re: Sacs family history « Result #92 on Apr 3, 2009, 3:52am »
Hi Mike In the 1900 directory he's listed as Elias Jacks, picture framer, at 42 Boaler St. Cannot see him in a preliminary search of the 1901 census, but as I mentioned before he's there in the 1911 census.
Re: Sacs family history « Result #95 on Apr 1, 2009, 1:23am »
Hi David
No I didn't know any of that, I thought Harry was born in 1900. His sister Rebecca was born in January 1892 a year after the census when he called himself Jacks. On that birth certificate it states the corrected name from Jacks to Sacs and Annie's name corrected from Wallenstein to Wolwenstein but definatley Elias not Alias and they had moved to West Derby Rd, Everton by then. Fascinating stuff and I thank you for all your help.
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Re: Sacs family history « Result #96 on Mar 31, 2009, 2:47pm »
Hi Mike I don't know if you have this information, but I found the family in the 1891 census living at 35 Dee Street: Alias (sic) Jacks, glazier, born 1867 Russia Annie L, born 1868 Germany Harry, born 1890 Liverpool With all these name changes you mention it's kind of appropriate that he was listed as Alias! Cheers David
Re: Sacs family history « Result #97 on Mar 31, 2009, 11:30am »
Hi David
Thanks for that info, Elias was my maternal grandfather! His wife was Annie Lya and there is a lot of confusion over the family name which was originally Sacs but appears to have been changed from time to time to Jacks or Jackson to anglicise it. What I wanted to find out was where they actually came from as all I have so far is russia / poland in about 1880. Anyway, I will follow up your lead and thanks again.
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Re: Sacs family history « Result #98 on Mar 31, 2009, 7:54am »
Hi Mike and welcome! Can you give us any approximate dates when the family was in Elizabeth St? I can tell you for starters that in 1911 there was an Elias Jacks, glazier, living at No.57. You can find him in the 1911 census and (for a fee) look at the detailed entry to find out who else was in the family. The street has some fascinating residents and seemed to be popular with Germans. For instance, the names include Grossman (who has appeared before on this Forum), Ellenbogen, Finkelstein, Ehrlich, Hertzberg, Hesselberg, Rosenberg, Schnittlinger, Altmann etc.. Thanks for bringing this interesting street to our attention. Cheers David
Sacs family history « Result #99 on Mar 31, 2009, 2:27am »
Hi
My mother was Rose Sacs or Jacks Or Jackson, she had 13 siblings and they lived in Elizabeth st. Does anyone have any info on the family history please?
lost family « Result #100 on Mar 9, 2009, 5:11pm »
hi is there anyone able to help me i am looking for cousins pauline and jacqueline cleator parents names phyllis cleator and husband john -jack cleator they lived in beaver grove aintree liverpool in the late 50-60s can you help thanks smiler1
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